It's worth noting that although the Catholic Encyclopedia mentions the counterfeit speech, said to have been forged by a former Augustinian Mexican, Dr José Agustin Escudero, it also recognises that in 1870, Strossmeyer was an opponent of Papal infallibility and did make a speech to that effect at the Vatican Council. He was also associated, for a while, with the German opponent of infallibility Ignaz Döllinger who had earlier been excommunicated by the RC church. In the end however, Strossmeyer yielded and submitted to Papal authority for the last 30 years of his life. In Croatia he didn't have the royal backing that Döllinger had in Bavaria and Luther had had in Saxony 350 years earlier. Timothy Stunt