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The Year 1869

The Son of God

by J.G. Bellett




Comments:
C Gribben said ...
Lots of unattributed quotations from and paraphrases of John Owen in here.
Monday, Feb 6, 2023 : 22:54
Rodger said ...
Are you able to point some of them out? At one point I was attempting to trace sources of the various quotations in “The Moral Glory…,” and pencil them into the margins of my copy.

Mr. Bellett had the rare (and wonderful) feature of quoting appreciatively from brothers outside those identified with “brethren.” If there are examples of other brothers who commonly did so, I would be interested in hearing about it. For the extent of his library, Mr. Kelly seems to have rarely been able to bring up non-“brethren” other than critically. Some of that is rectified by EEW’s notes in his commentaries.
Tuesday, Feb 7, 2023 : 02:59
Bihonegn Demena said ...
Dear sir, I am from Ethiopia I need the pdf version of this book. Thank you,
Wednesday, Sep 27, 2023 : 19:29
Rodger said ...
In “J.N. Darby and the Roots of Dispensationalism,” Mr. Gribben writes, “Bellett… structured his arguments in ‘Son of God’ (1869) around lengthy - and unattributed - paraphrases of Owen’s Christological writing.” (pg. xii)

Is this more evident in certain publications of this book than in others? Can someone demonstrate the links between Bellett’s paraphrases and Owen’s original work?
Monday, Mar 25, 2024 : 02:22
Jonathan said ...
It sounds like Crawford must have done some work on this - but perhaps has not explained in detail in his book? (I'm still waiting for my copy - UK versions only to be issued on 23 April!)
Monday, Mar 25, 2024 : 23:39
Theophilus said ...

Rodger, an edition of The Son of God  was published  by JAMES CARTER in 1896. This was a full reprint taken from the original papers that appeared in the The Present Testimony. It was edited by H. A. Hammond of Sundridge, Bournemouth, and in his notes he references extracts from John Owen. Prof. Gribben's researches may well have thrown up others. The Chapter Two Book Depot, London, secondhand department may well have copies of this edition available, as they have had In the past. It remains a good source for secondhand books.

We may conjecture why many had been asking for this book "at the present, time" [i.e. 1896].

Wednesday, Mar 27, 2024 : 23:58
Rodger said ...
Thanks, Theophilus. That was exactly the info I was looking for. I’ll be on the hunt for a copy of that edition. Shipping from Chapter Two to Canada might be a bit on the expensive side, so I’ll see what can be found in North America first.

Thursday, Mar 28, 2024 : 10:39
Rodger said ...
Not only is it interesting that it was thought necessary to publish a new edition of “The Son of God” in 1896, it is intriguing that at this point it was thought good to publish links between Bellett’s teaching and that of Owen, connecting it to a sort of historical orthodoxy. This seems counter to the general tendency of “brethren” at this point in their history, but maybe there was occurring a realisation of having too-far disassociated themselves from the “historic Christian faith.”

(Gribben’s book is very good, btw. Just finished it yesterday.)
Thursday, Mar 28, 2024 : 10:52
Rodger said ...
The James Carter, 1896 edition of “The Son Of God” seems to be quite hard to come by. If anyone has a scan of it that would be much appreciated.
Saturday, Apr 6, 2024 : 11:34
C Gribben said ...
Sorry, everyone, I'm just seeing this now. I should visit the website more often ...

I can't find my copy of the Carter edition, but from memory he doesn't note all of the following (page nos from the Morrish edition):

p. 66: "Divine wisdom is the way of our recovery ..." - Owen, Works, ed Goold, 1:212.
p. 101: "His glorious meetness', to use very much the language of another ..." - Owen, Works, ed Goold, 1:228.
p. 109-110: "The perfect and complete work of Christ in every act ..." - Owen, Works, ed Goold 1:234.
p. 113: "Jesus is in the same body in heaven ..." - Owen, Works, ed Goold, 1:238.
p. 114: "His present state is a state of the highest glory ..." - Owen, Works, ed Goold, 1:252.

There might be others! Looking forward to seeing what others have found.
Friday, Jun 21, 2024 : 21:10
C Gribben said ...
I've found my copy of the 1895 edition (not 1896, as above), if anyone wants any more info on it.
Thursday, Jul 11, 2024 : 20:22
Rodger said ...
I’d be very much interested in seeing whatever sort of editor’s introduction it has, as well as examples of editorial comments. If this goes beyond the scope of what is useful on this thread, and you are so disposed, Mr. Gribben, perhaps you could email me some photos? Tom could give you my email address.
Saturday, Jul 13, 2024 : 01:32
C Gribben said ...
Very happy to share images, Rodger, if Tom can put us in touch!
Tuesday, Jul 16, 2024 : 04:47
Rodger said ...
Thanks, Crawford! I emailed Tom.
Tuesday, Jul 16, 2024 : 07:57


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